10:51:29 Well, hello and welcome to breakout room three. 10:51:32 My name is LaDawn. 10:51:35 Don Eastern. 10:51:36 I'm the program manager at freed and then your bestseller area. 10:51:39 And I have the privilege of introducing Ana Acton. 10:51:41 One of the busiest women I've ever met. 10:51:47 And I'm really excited that she's here and able to speak with us 10:51:50 today. 10:51:51 For those of you who don't know who Ana is, 10:51:53 she is currently the deputy. 10:51:54 Deputy director of the independent living. 10:51:58 And community access division at the California department of 10:52:01 rehabilitation. 10:52:06 And prior to joining the department of rehabilitation on June of this 10:52:09 year on a served as the executive director of freed. 10:52:11 Ana is not in Nevada city native. 10:52:13 And she grew up in the north San Juan wrench. 10:52:20 And on his passion to further the rights and the opportunities for 10:52:23 people with disabilities and older adults has gained her statewide and 10:52:26 nationwide recognition. 10:52:28 And her role as executive director freed. 10:52:30 She was a member of the Anthem Medi-Cal managed care. 10:52:32 Advisory board. 10:52:38 The California governor's office of emergency service, access, 10:52:41 and functional needs advisory committee, 10:52:43 also the California aging and disability resource connection advisory 10:52:46 committee. 10:52:47 And was an active member of the board of the California foundation for 10:52:50 independent living centers. 10:52:54 During her time at freed and under her leadership, 10:52:56 the Nevada county ACRC became the first rural state designated the 10:53:00 AGRC in California. 10:53:01 So, like I said, I'm one of the busiest women I've ever met. 10:53:04 So with all of that being said, welcome Ana. 10:53:07 Thank you so much. 10:53:08 The Dawn and I'm really excited. 10:53:10 To be here. 10:53:17 And I recognize so many of your names and faces, 10:53:20 and there are also new people here. So I'm really excited. 10:53:23 To spend a little bit of time with you. 10:53:25 So you have been, you know, here at the conference, you've heard. 10:53:30 Around about the master plan of aging, right. And the five bold goals. 10:53:34 As well as a perspective from Jan Arbuckle on, you know, 10:53:38 No, the master plan. 10:53:41 Plan for aging and how it relates to both urban and rural 10:53:44 communities. 10:53:45 You also, so we want to take this conversation kind. 10:53:48 To the next level. 10:53:49 And really dig into. 10:53:55 Some considerations, right. 10:53:56 For what this means for our community and how do we advance. 10:53:59 The master plan on aging. 10:54:06 So today at this part, 10:54:07 we'll be talking about the aging and disability resource connection 10:54:10 model and how that might advance the master plan on aging. 10:54:13 So with the five bold ideas, right? For the master plan on aging. 10:54:17 And that you heard about earlier. 10:54:18 Goal three is related to inclusion and equity and not isolation. 10:54:28 And as part of that initiative, 10:54:30 there are some great strategies outlined from digital divide 10:54:33 opportunities for work, volunteering, and engaging with multiple. 10:54:37 Across generations. 10:54:38 But also within that goal is a strategy. 10:54:41 Related to California leadership and aging. 10:54:43 And this is strategy. 10:54:44 And there is initiative 98. 10:54:46 98, which says. 10:54:53 Build out a no wrong door. 10:54:55 One door statewide for public information and assistance on aging 10:54:59 disability. 10:55:00 And dementia. 10:55:08 The upgraded web portal statewide network of local ADR seas 10:55:12 with shared trainings, tools, and technology, 10:55:15 and continually improving cultural competency and language access. 10:55:19 So, right. All the magic really works on this local level. 10:55:22 This is where we can ensure that the needs of people with 10:55:24 disabilities, older adults are met. 10:55:26 One of the biggest frustrations that we hear from community members, 10:55:29 whether they've had a child. 10:55:30 Born with a disability or they acquire a disability or they're aging 10:55:34 into disability. 10:55:35 Are aging into not being able to do things that they once could. 10:55:38 Where do you go for information? 10:55:44 You don't, 10:55:45 you don't know where to go until you've been in a position right. 10:55:48 Where you need to reach out and figure out what's out there. 10:55:51 Often people know where they need support and help. 10:55:52 But often have a difficult time knowing where to go and how to 10:55:55 navigate the various silos and systems. 10:55:57 And, 10:55:58 and figuring out what is available in their local community to meet 10:56:01 their individual needs. 10:56:02 So with that, 10:56:04 we want to open it up for discussion here on the ACRC. 10:56:13 Model and how you all think that we can leverage the AVRC 10:56:17 model to realize the master plan on aging on a local 10:56:21 level. 10:56:22 So I would like to start by just hearing from you on. 10:56:25 What an ADR. 10:56:28 Is to you and what, 10:56:29 how you think that we can develop a no wrong door system that will 10:56:32 address some of that frustration. 10:56:33 Right. 10:56:34 Difficulty that people experience when trying to access long-term 10:56:38 services and supports. 10:56:39 So. 10:56:40 I see, I will ask you to raise your hand. 10:56:42 You can put stuff in the chat. 10:56:44 If you can't get ahold of us and you feel like I'm ignoring you. 10:56:47 You can just unmute yourself as well. 10:56:49 So with that, we have bill. 10:56:51 Peltre. 10:56:52 Bill. If you don't. 10:56:53 Hi welcome. 10:56:57 First of all, this is. 10:56:59 A tremendous morning. 10:57:02 And it's so great to be talking about the DRC. 10:57:06 I'm on two separate county committees. 10:57:08 Adjoining counties. 10:57:14 Alameda county. 10:57:16 They were both developing an AVRC and I will say that I think 10:57:20 we have. 10:57:21 A opportunity to leverage something that both was horrible, 10:57:24 but creates an opportunity. And that's cool. 10:57:30 And the COVID has revealed beyond any doubt, 10:57:33 the disparity of services, particularly for underserved populations. 10:57:37 And since. 10:57:38 One of the primary deliverables of an ADR. 10:57:40 Is equity and access that I think that we have to leverage. 10:57:47 As we come out, 10:57:48 all of our county's looking at equity and access and leverage that. 10:57:53 Spirit. Well, 10:57:54 it's still alive before people get back into their institutional ruts. 10:57:58 On how we can. 10:58:01 Empower the ADR CS in our communities, as we build out. 10:58:05 And I would say one last thing. 10:58:06 As much as I love the no wrong door model. 10:58:13 I think to be clear eyed and realistic about it, 10:58:15 that involves a lot of cross training. 10:58:18 With agencies that don't normally work together. 10:58:20 So if somebody goes into housing, 10:58:22 And they're looking on housing issues. 10:58:23 Those housing people may not know much. 10:58:30 About, you know, aging issues and so on. 10:58:32 So I bring that up to say, it's a noble goal, and we want to do that. 10:58:36 But that is something that we're going to have to build while we're 10:58:40 flying the plane. 10:58:42 For it to be fully effective in my opinion. So I want it. 10:58:45 Don't hear me. 10:58:46 Saying I don't want it, but I just think here it's a lot. 10:58:49 It's a heavy lift. 10:58:50 To get that fully operational. So Mike. 10:58:52 My key point here is I think. 10:58:56 COVID is horrible as it was, gives us an amazing opportunity. 10:59:00 To leverage. 10:59:04 Well, 10:59:05 people are still alert and awake to disparity and inequity to 10:59:09 really leverage. 10:59:10 An ADR see, going forward, we really need to capitalize on that. 10:59:14 And then lastly, I would say. 10:59:16 Thinking about Alameda county, for instance. 10:59:18 Contra Costa. 10:59:22 Had to do some really extraordinary things to get hard to reach 10:59:24 populations. 10:59:25 To get vaccinated. 10:59:33 Including knocking door to door. 10:59:34 And we need to think about those strategies as we build out and 10:59:38 get the word out on ADR. 10:59:40 Thank you for taking my comments. 10:59:44 Bill. Thank you so much. I could not have said it better and I just, 10:59:47 well, 10:59:48 other people are raising their hands or thinking about how they'll 10:59:51 chime in. 10:59:52 I want to just, just go over a couple of things that you said, 10:59:54 one is COVID right. COVID highlighted. 10:59:56 Things that we. 10:59:57 I knew about it. 11:00:03 In aging and disability, right. It rose to the surface, 11:00:06 all these inequities around access to information, digital divide, 11:00:10 access to food and transportation. 11:00:15 And the need for community-based services and supports right? 11:00:19 Where we saw the congregate settings being, 11:00:21 where it was so hard to manage, right. Those outbreaks. 11:00:23 And we saw the death tolls, frankly. 11:00:25 B B really? 11:00:26 Difficult in those facilities. 11:00:28 So, so, you know, really highlight. 11:00:29 In that community based living. 11:00:35 So totally. I think that as much as it's been hard, 11:00:37 we have an opportunity to remember, we have the focus, 11:00:40 we have the conversations, we have new understanding of what. 11:00:44 What disability aging services are needed and should look like in a 11:00:47 community-based setting. 11:00:48 Cross training is critical to an ADR. 11:00:50 The initiative. 11:00:51 Right. 11:00:57 So you want to no wrong door system, 11:00:59 which means if people come into your homeless shelter or into your 11:01:02 home delivered meals or to, you know, 11:01:05 your healthcare clinic. 11:01:07 That, that people know what to. 11:01:08 You're out there and how to get them. 11:01:10 To those resources as easily as possible. 11:01:12 So cross training. 11:01:13 What are the services you provide? What's your eligibility. 11:01:15 You know, 11:01:16 how do you make a referral directly to who they need to go to? 11:01:18 I also want to mention a one, the one door pieces in the master plan, 11:01:21 right? As much as you need the no wrong door system. 11:01:23 No matter where people end up, they need to get connected. 11:01:33 You also, how do you advertise it? How do you outreach? 11:01:35 Where is the one door that you would say, if nothing else, 11:01:37 you don't know where to go community, 11:01:39 at least call this place or walk into this place. 11:01:41 And I just vaccine as a great, I think, example of how ADR. 11:01:45 Can be leveraged. 11:01:46 You know, 11:01:47 we have dollars coming into the state for vaccine access still. 11:01:51 Right. We have 80 RCS. 11:01:52 Or getting funding. 11:02:01 For increasing vaccine education, outreach and access. 11:02:05 We have independent living centers that are a core partner of an eight 11:02:07 ERC getting this money to do a similar thing. 11:02:10 And we have to blaze and older Americans act funded partners. 11:02:12 Getting funding to do a similar thing. 11:02:14 How do we leverage these resources from multiple places to make an 11:02:17 effective campaign? 11:02:18 And get more vaccine and vaccines in arms. 11:02:21 So, let's see, we have a chat here. 11:02:23 And let me just look here. We have. 11:02:25 Do we have anything here? 11:02:27 From Valerie. 11:02:29 It seems ADR seized has low community 11:02:32 visibility. 11:02:36 Many people only learn that when they are start reaching out for 11:02:39 assistance, maybe more public outreach. 11:02:41 Does anyone want to address that? 11:02:44 That issue around visibility, marketing outreach. 11:02:53 This is Debbie Tyler from seniors first and I'm with plaster. 11:02:56 County. 11:03:08 And we are an emerging AGRC and I agree totally with Valerie that 11:03:12 we do need to work on that. 11:03:13 And we're just starting our outreach campaign right now as an emerging 11:03:16 AGRC and looking at what is the best way to make that happen. 11:03:19 I think one of the things that Elden. 11:03:21 And Sarah and all those and Liz and all those folks have been talking 11:03:24 about is. 11:03:37 You know, 11:03:38 where do we want our publicity money to go towards so that we can do 11:03:41 marketing, that people are going to notice that we want buses, 11:03:43 banners on buses, or, you know, 11:03:45 my personal feelings since I run an information assistance unit that's 11:03:49 funded through the agency on aging is that we're going to be one of 11:03:52 the best outreach campaigns that are out there. 11:03:54 My unit. 11:03:55 Runs four to 500 phone calls a month through us. 11:03:58 You know, 11:03:59 we're going to be mentioning the AGRC as we go along explaining to 11:04:02 people. 11:04:03 Good about what it means. 11:04:05 And how I can help connect them with the partners. 11:04:07 We've spent a lot of this past year training so that we are real clear 11:04:10 on what every, all of our partners do. 11:04:12 Not that we didn't know before, 11:04:14 but we want to be sure that we all stay up to date together. 11:04:16 So I think having input from people like Valerie, who says, you know, 11:04:18 You guys aren't out there. We don't know who you are. 11:04:20 What's the best way of getting input from you is going to help us. 11:04:22 Out what the best way is to get the word out. 11:04:25 Thank you so much. Do you, 11:04:27 you're really doing some amazing work work in Plasser county and 11:04:30 you're you. 11:04:31 Those are the conversations that need to happen. 11:04:33 Right. 11:04:34 Who's doing information referral. 11:04:36 Well, right. 11:04:37 There's older Americans act funding. 11:04:39 In Plasser county, for example, that has a requirement of. 11:04:42 Of information assistance. 11:04:44 You have the independent living center that has a requirement of 11:04:46 information referral. 11:04:48 You have a 2, 1, 1. 11:04:49 That is new to. 11:05:01 To Plasser county. 11:05:02 What are the other referral places that are already out there people 11:05:05 are going to, and how do you make sure that, you know, 11:05:08 all those referral points. 11:05:10 I understand what you're doing. 11:05:11 Part of the system and you're working collaboratively, right. 11:05:13 And then thinking through, well, who are we going to promote? 11:05:16 What number are we going to put on the banner on the. 11:05:18 The bus. 11:05:20 You know, for the one door. 11:05:26 And then how well that one place makes sure the person gets the warm 11:05:30 handoff. It gets the connection to whatever service they need. 11:05:33 Valerie. 11:05:34 Oh, you're on mute. 11:05:35 Does an a DRC. 11:05:37 One phone number. 11:05:39 You know, 11:05:42 People can call and why couldn't. 11:05:44 All the partners. 11:05:45 Do you, do you see partners? 11:05:46 Inserts in there. 11:05:47 Mail lanes. 11:05:51 Like social services, public authority, hospice. 11:05:55 You know, so that people go to the people. 11:06:02 Generally, 11:06:03 I think one of the biggest populations we serve the homeless 11:06:07 shelter. 11:06:14 All the housing collaborative folks, you know, 11:06:18 why can't they just have inserts informing people that there is 11:06:21 no wrong door. One. 11:06:23 Place, you know, to call. 11:06:24 Great point of Valerie. Thank you for that. 11:06:26 I think those are great ideas and I think. 11:06:31 Nevada county and our, and the work that I had done there, 11:06:33 you do get to a point, if you're going to market an outreach, 11:06:35 you need to make it simple. Right. So what is that one number? 11:06:41 That's going to be a local decision and coordination of who is best 11:06:45 suited when you are marketing and outreaching bill. 11:06:48 Yeah. 11:06:49 I wanted, I wanted to add that. I think. 11:06:51 Along with the traditional ways that we would mark it. 11:06:54 I think we have to think non-traditional. 11:06:58 And there have been several initiatives that we have all seen that do. 11:07:02 Non-traditional things I'll use an example. They used to be called. 11:07:04 Obama phones that were low cost cell phones. 11:07:09 For low-income individuals and people with disabilities. 11:07:12 They had people at the dollar store on Saturday. 11:07:14 They have people at flea markets. 11:07:16 They had people in front of health and human service. 11:07:19 Buildings at the local county and so on. 11:07:20 So I think in addition to people. 11:07:23 Putting things. 11:07:24 Signs and things. And so on up. 11:07:31 I think that we also have to think about in terms of coming to the 11:07:34 people or not having a model where the people only come to us. 11:07:37 And that, that, and so I will quickly say that in San Francisco, 11:07:42 Their ADR C model is the ADR. 11:07:44 Staff. 11:07:46 Or possess are posted. 11:07:52 At various senior programs with throughout the city that 11:07:56 serve certain populations within the city. 11:08:00 And so they are in essence, bringing the services, dropping it down. 11:08:03 In a well-worn path. I want to make one last suggestion. 11:08:06 If you don't mind. 11:08:07 One of the places that I learned in an earlier grant, 11:08:10 when we're doing information referral. 11:08:12 Was that one of the key places people go for information. 11:08:15 Is the library reference desk. 11:08:18 And so we need to have this up in all the public libraries. So again, 11:08:25 In essence, what is it going to take for this to be successful? 11:08:28 It's going to take all of us doing everything. 11:08:31 And so I don't think we can think about a silver bullet strategy. 11:08:37 We got to really go for it. 11:08:38 We've got this huge opportunity and we just got to go for it. 11:08:42 Like there's no tomorrow. 11:08:48 Bill. Thank you. 11:08:50 You bring up a great point of really looking as a community assessing 11:08:52 where do people go for information? 11:08:54 Because we're trying to integrate that information to where people go. 11:08:56 And not assist that. Everyone's funneled into one. 11:08:59 Particular place. 11:09:01 COVID has shown that the D at peace, right. 11:09:03 Community. 11:09:06 Are talking about reaching new populations of individuals they hadn't 11:09:09 reached before, even during. 11:09:13 We have a new way of acting with people who digital access. 11:09:17 What about the co-location idea? 11:09:20 Maybe a DRC staff, you know, 11:09:22 staff from various organizations go to. 11:09:25 There's Chan's and have spare and work. 11:09:27 The coordinate services purchase the food banks. 11:09:31 Wherever you are, where people are going to. 11:09:34 What. 11:09:45 L w while I wait, I just, 11:09:49 as a reminder, 11:09:50 a lot of this effort is around diversion and transition. 11:09:53 You see that a lot in ADR CS. 11:09:55 So the question becomes, what can we do? 11:09:58 As organizations to support people from falling in. 11:10:01 In a hospital, you know, losing their housing. 11:10:04 So they become homeless. 11:10:05 Preventing people from having to go into higher levels of care. 11:10:13 Right. 11:10:14 The continuum of longterm services and supports is anything from 11:10:16 community based living to institutional settings. 11:10:19 But what we know is that people really prefer to be in the community. 11:10:22 Right. And that's where they want to live their family, 11:10:24 their community as long as possible. 11:10:26 So how do we divert people from going to the higher levels of care? 11:10:29 Unnecessarily. 11:10:30 Prematurely. 11:10:31 Key people out of the hospitals or nursing homes. 11:10:33 And how do we help people? 11:10:34 Transition life transitions is really where people stumble. 11:10:37 And how do we provide support? 11:10:40 So raise your hands. If you have something to add here. 11:10:44 Or put it in the chat. 11:10:45 Debbie. 11:10:47 I think I, I, whoops. 11:10:51 I think I screwed up my chat here. 11:10:53 It's still here and I didn't enter it. I'm sorry. 11:10:54 You know, it's a no wrong door. 11:10:56 You think after a year of zoom? 11:10:57 Zoom, I would get this down. 11:11:02 The HRC is a Norwalk. Is. 11:11:04 The no wrong door model. So each. 11:11:06 One of us has a partner. 11:11:13 We don't just have to have one, one number that's funneling people in, 11:11:16 like everyone has said. 11:11:28 That's not what we're shooting for is just one. 11:11:30 But I think having the term AGRC out there and understanding what that 11:11:33 means to seniors is really important. 11:11:34 So one of the things that we've been doing in the last six months and 11:11:37 seniors first right now is under a step. 11:11:39 Grant doing a transportation handbook for Plasser county. 11:11:42 It's almost ready to go. 11:11:43 Press and the ADR. 11:11:49 Logo is on everything that we do to include our searchable 11:11:52 databases on the seniors first website, 11:11:56 which is a part of the DRC also. So you're gonna start to see. 11:11:58 Like. 11:12:02 That AGRC logo out there. 11:12:04 I think it's a matter of educating people like bill is saying, 11:12:07 getting folks out there to make sure people know what that means, 11:12:09 that we are a partnership that we are working together as a group. 11:12:12 And I'm kind of excited about that part. 11:12:14 It's going to take some time and some education. 11:12:16 And like I just spoke about, on our, just spoke about, 11:12:19 we want to help people live, where they choose to live. 11:12:22 As long as they can live in that model and to be able to offer them 11:12:25 that support. 11:12:26 So I think it's a matter of. 11:12:30 Getting that out, linking it together. For example, 11:12:33 seniors versus been around for 30 years. 11:12:37 We have our logo on not only our literature, 11:12:40 but a lot of other AGRC literature. And then peers is there with us. 11:12:45 Independent resource services, the area for on aging. 11:12:48 So they're starting to get linked. I see it happening. 11:12:51 Just going to be a long, slow process. 11:12:53 I personally really appreciate bills. 11:12:57 Input. 11:12:58 We need to get people out there because it's more about that personal 11:13:00 contact, I think, than it is about handing people, pieces of paper. 11:13:03 I get I'm a, I'm a paper collector. 11:13:05 I collect business cards and whatever. 11:13:07 I go. 11:13:17 Kind of filters through pretty rapidly, 11:13:19 but that personal contact is really an important piece. 11:13:22 Also we do meals on wheels at seniors. First we serve meals to 400, 11:13:26 over 450 people. 11:13:27 A day. It's a great place. 11:13:29 I see it in the chat about having inserts out there. 11:13:31 So we're going to see more of that. 11:13:32 And I'll certainly take any input back to my agency. 11:13:35 Just like I'm sure everyone else will hear. 11:13:36 Thank you for letting me have the opportunity to speak. 11:13:38 Thank you. Yes, no wrong door. How do we create that? 11:13:42 Again, I'll go back to, 11:13:43 if you're going to market an outreach for letting people know. 11:13:47 How they can get connected, then you'll have to think strategically. 11:13:50 How you're going to mark it. 11:13:51 For fried. 11:14:01 And area four in Nevada county, 11:14:03 we really looked at where most people were going for information. 11:14:07 And that was 2, 1, 1. Use that as the number to call, no matter what. 11:14:10 And then started developing a community data exchange there, 11:14:13 which is about to go live soon is my understanding where there'll be 11:14:17 an initial. 11:14:20 [Unknown] done their risk for hospitalization 11:14:24 institutional care need for food and transportation. All those. 11:14:35 And then through a web based referral process will be referred to the 11:14:39 appropriate organization, 11:14:40 the organism and the consumer ops end to that, 11:14:43 to give permission for that referral, 11:14:45 a release of information is being worked out as part of this. 11:14:47 And then that referral goes directly to the organization through 11:14:50 email, through web-based email, and then it, the. 11:14:52 [Unknown] the organization is able to say, yes, 11:14:54 they're getting services or not, 11:14:55 because that was another complaint that we hear. Right. 11:14:57 How do we coordinate? We don't know what each other is doing. 11:15:00 So food for thought. 11:15:01 Peter. 11:15:02 Regulations on. 11:15:03 I'm telling you all the words. 11:15:05 You too. 11:15:08 Either their community. 11:15:13 Progress for the state council on developmental disabilities. 11:15:15 And the Sacramento. 11:15:18 I want to step back into, I used to be my little girl. 11:15:21 With the Marine center. 11:15:22 Loading as a director of advocacy. 11:15:24 You know, as was mentioned before. 11:15:28 AVR shoes were really bad. 11:15:30 Pivotal. 11:15:34 Derek COVID but also around disaster preparedness and response. 11:15:38 People. 11:15:39 I'll leave institutions. 11:15:41 Preventing people from going into institutions. 11:15:44 Is ADR. 11:15:46 There's not limits. 11:15:48 What they can do to support our communities. 11:15:50 What I'd like to see happen. 11:15:54 Is that ADR? 11:15:58 Information is listed on all, all of. 11:16:02 Of important numbers with counties and cities. 11:16:07 What is the literal word for that ADR CS so that the community knows 11:16:11 that you can call us. 11:16:12 And also we're developing some really good data. 11:16:15 I'm the important too. 11:16:18 And their important role. 11:16:22 So really to get better about telling our stories. 11:16:27 And doing some really good PSA. 11:16:30 Public service announcement. 11:16:31 And really. 11:16:33 Telling it. 11:16:34 I was telling her story. 11:16:40 Thank you so much, Peter. 11:16:43 These are great suggestions. Yes. 11:16:46 This is Maggie. Can I talk. 11:16:47 Yes. 11:16:49 Yeah. 11:16:57 Well, I got to tell you, 11:16:59 I miss seeing you at a lot of the meetings and congratulations where 11:17:02 you're at. I know you're just a Maverick. 11:17:04 It's amazing. 11:17:05 But I, I am personally taking care of. 11:17:09 A developmentally disabled brother who is aging. He's 65. 11:17:13 He just turned 65. 11:17:14 And what I experience. I know we talked about how do we make a DRCs. 11:17:17 You know, 11:17:18 Vis visible. 11:17:28 But what happened with COVID is that a lot of the restrictions and the 11:17:32 way that we could deliver services were lifted and that was incredibly 11:17:36 helpful. 11:17:37 Because you can have all of these great ideas, 11:17:39 but if you don't have the services or people can access to them where 11:17:41 there's some kind of barrier. 11:17:44 You know, like income. 11:17:45 Yeah. 11:17:47 I'm a big advocate of helping what I call the gappers, 11:17:49 who are the people that aren't rich enough to be able to afford $30 an 11:17:52 hour. 11:17:53 You know, for caregiving, but also don't qualify for. 11:17:56 You know, 11:18:03 [Unknown] there's a lot of us in between. For example, 11:18:07 we spent 18,000 and I want to say a thousand dollars a 11:18:11 month for full-time care for my mother in home. 11:18:16 Where, you know, with my brother, 11:18:17 I was able to get help with Alta regional, you know, when, 11:18:20 when COVID happened, 11:18:21 because a lot of the restrictions were lifted with how I could get 11:18:24 help. So I think, you know, 11:18:26 Being able to really access these, these programs, 11:18:29 having them available. 11:18:30 Another thing is, you know, even. 11:18:32 I couldn't, I can't afford $30. 11:18:33 An hour, but I couldn't afford maybe $10 an hour or 15. 11:18:36 You know, when I'm paying a kid, everybody, even that guts, you know, 11:18:39 Outrageously expensive. So. 11:18:42 Really having these programs that are agile. 11:18:45 Aren't so restricted with. 11:18:47 Regulations. 11:18:49 Well, it's, you know, even the admin. 11:18:52 To do the admin part of these. 11:18:55 It's just so expensive that you can't even deliver the service. 11:19:00 You know, 11:19:01 for those of you that know what it's like to do really heavy admin as 11:19:03 you do. 11:19:05 You know, running so many grants. 11:19:08 So I think the flexibility was really helpful and we saw that during 11:19:12 COVID. 11:19:20 We're able to access a lot of programs that we weren't or deliver them 11:19:23 where we normally wouldn't and nobody wants to be in a long-term care 11:19:27 facility during COVID. I mean, that was very apparent, right. 11:19:30 We don't want to be scared. Yeah. That's it. Thanks. 11:19:39 Thank you, Mary. Thank you so much. 11:19:41 These are really great discussions. 11:19:42 We're going to capture your ideas and there's also additional great 11:19:46 minute comments in the notes here that we'll capture as well. 11:19:49 How to get the word out, how to. 11:19:51 Do the marketing and outreach, great suggestions and ideas. 11:19:54 So we're going to wrap up here with a minute to go. 11:19:56 So you can go back to your next. 11:19:59 Next gig for the conference. 11:20:02 But just as a reminder, right? Why are we doing this really? You know, 11:20:06 People are people and people have needs, 11:20:08 regardless of what type of disability they have or what age the 11:20:10 individual is. So the benefit of the HDRC. 11:20:16 Is to start looking past the silos and seeing people as they are and 11:20:20 working with them on their goals, 11:20:21 helping them develop plans so that they can meet those goals. 11:20:24 And helping people navigate those silos and finding the gaps and 11:20:27 barriers for people and the community coming together to address them. 11:20:31 So, this is really a new opportunity for how we provide services. 11:20:34 COVID like Mary said, has helped us see that. 11:20:36 Maybe we don't go back to status quo. 11:20:47 Maybe we actually learned from these last year and a half and helping 11:20:50 use what we've learned to inform our future service delivery model. 11:20:54 And with that, do we have more time? 11:20:57 Or no. 11:20:58 At 1120. 11:20:59 So, thank you all so much. 11:21:01 And I hope you enjoy the rest of your conference. 11:21:04 So, if you're going to stay for the Plaza county breakout session, 11:21:07 you can go and stay ahead and stay right where you are otherwise 11:21:10 navigate back to your primary screen.