11:23:27 Well, I think we have a lot of the people here.
11:23:31 And want to start the session.
11:23:33 Why'd you're all here.
11:23:34 We have quite a few people.
11:23:38 I looked through the list.
11:23:48 Sean that some were not from Lasher county.
11:23:52 So welcome to you as well.
11:23:54 And I see a lot of plaster county folks here.
11:23:55 A couple of things.
11:23:58 I'll be the facilitator for this group.
11:23:59 And Sarah will be the note taker.
11:24:01 For this group and we'll report out for us in the final report out
11:24:05 session.
11:24:06 I hope we have some dialogue here.
11:24:09 Pretty informal.
11:24:11 Questions please either.
11:24:13 Cook them in the chat.
11:24:17 And I will try to monitor the chat.
11:24:19 And.
11:24:21 Maybe Sarah could help me a little bit there too.
11:24:28 And our, our, maybe raise your hand and you could probably unmute.
11:24:31 Mute yourself.
11:24:35 We've all seen the data. We've talked a lot about that.
11:24:38 If you were in that session.
11:24:39 Particularly.
11:24:41 And we've heard a good deal about the master plan on aging.
11:24:45 And it's not just for aging, but for disability as well.
11:24:47 So, I guess.
11:24:49 Just to open it up.
11:24:51 What are your thoughts?
11:24:52 At this point.
11:24:55 Those of you from flasher.
11:25:00 I've been involved in overdose.
11:25:02 Now for a good deal of time.
11:25:22 All right. I'll call on people.
11:25:25 Hi, I'm Kara I'm with options.
11:25:28 In supported living and we provide.
11:25:34 Round the clock support to individuals in their own homes,
11:25:36 individuals with developmental disabilities.
11:25:37 One thing I will say is.
11:25:40 For myself, residing in plaster county and then attempting.
11:25:43 To assist people.
11:25:44 Living in Plasser county. It is.
11:25:46 By far.
11:25:52 One of the hardest places to find affordable living for any of my
11:25:55 clients and that.
11:26:00 It's it's frightening when somebody is on a fixed income and they are
11:26:03 residing on, you know, $950 a month.
11:26:05 And rent is starting it over a thousand.
11:26:07 It's really difficult because.
11:26:13 Our clients want to be able to live their lives like anybody else.
11:26:16 And.
11:26:17 Doors are closing.
11:26:18 So.
11:26:19 That's one of my biggest challenges.
11:26:20 Thank you. Thank you.
11:26:26 For stepping up. And that obviously is one of the master plans.
11:26:29 Issues is housing.
11:26:31 I think we have experienced that across.
11:26:32 Our whole area, but we certainly recognize it in flasher.
11:26:39 Others Elden.
11:26:41 I'd like to just make a pitch to 'em.
11:26:47 In the pleasure county area,
11:26:48 we just launched a shared housing program that is
11:26:52 American river in Colby.
11:26:53 Here, you can see you. You're nodding your head.
11:26:55 I don't think people are really knowing about that. And I see that.
11:27:02 You know, in the beginning,
11:27:03 they kind of featured the home key program, but it was like this,
11:27:06 this program is for everybody and I'm actually sharing a room right
11:27:10 now with a friend.
11:27:11 I am paying rent and helping out. And.
11:27:13 It's pretty cool, actually,
11:27:15 because I don't have to worry about all the overhead of the house that
11:27:17 they have in plastic county.
11:27:23 But I also have a disabled brother
11:27:26 that I, you know, I was literally looking,
11:27:29 I had an extra room and was looking to have somebody that is also.
11:27:32 Developmentally disabled.
11:27:33 Come in and use that room. And again, it's the networking, you know,
11:27:36 we're fragmented.
11:27:39 I'm in the industry and I can't even navigate the older services
11:27:42 network. So I am so excited about ADR sees. You can't even believe it.
11:27:45 Ever since I heard about them in 2013.
11:27:47 Thank you Maggie.
11:27:48 Others.
11:27:56 Hi, Russ.
11:28:03 One of the things I've really noticed is the homeless population
11:28:06 shamed.
11:28:07 To be moving in from.
11:28:09 Further down.
11:28:10 As you drive around town.
11:28:14 A little tent built up everywhere.
11:28:17 I would one with that comes the trash.
11:28:22 Very unsightly,
11:28:23 but I think that's one of the things that really sticks out to me.
11:28:28 Thank you. And we had some information on that in our dental workshop.
11:28:31 How many.
11:28:32 Or homeless folks.
11:28:33 Or older adults.
11:28:36 Others.
11:28:45 A minute or two.
11:28:47 Please do.
11:28:53 So plastic crowding, we're actually wrapping up our five-year plan.
11:28:56 The needs of the growing senior population.
11:28:58 And that plan was based on the world health organizations.
11:29:00 Don't rooms of livability.
11:29:04 That influenced the quality, the quality of life.
11:29:07 So several years ago, we recognized the need.
11:29:10 To prove gross services and plastic county.
11:29:12 That would be more user friendly and approval.
11:29:15 So we made a lot of progress.
11:29:19 Specifically in the areas of transportation housing.
11:29:24 But there's more to do.
11:29:29 With the five-year plan wrapping up. This is a perfect time to pivot.
11:29:32 Two master plan.
11:29:34 And do some moves assessment.
11:29:35 To determine where we're at.
11:29:37 And where do we want to go?
11:29:40 Find your plan was driven primarily by health and human service.
11:29:47 Whereas the master plan.
11:29:50 Requires a much larger coalition to be successful.
11:29:56 So I I'm personally looking forward to building a more diverse
11:29:59 coalition involving not your food.
11:30:00 In city, government, but also.
11:30:02 Based organizations, nonprofits.
11:30:04 Civic group.
11:30:05 And also the private sector.
11:30:08 But we've done a lot of great work.
11:30:10 It's just more to do. And I think this master plan.
11:30:12 Perfect.
11:30:16 We were going to continue to improve and.
11:30:20 Disability.
11:30:21 Thanks Colby.
11:30:23 Yes.
11:30:25 Plaster. County's been fortunate.
11:30:31 Their commission on aging,
11:30:32 which we call the older adult advisory commission.
11:30:36 Being very active and very supportive of becoming an age friendly,
11:30:40 challenging.
11:30:43 And thus that gave birth to the five-year vision or plan that our
11:30:47 board of supervisors approved.
11:30:49 Interesting.
11:30:50 Not this call. They said that ended.
11:30:52 A few days to go at the end of June, it was five-year plan.
11:30:54 And it seems the natural take off from there.
11:30:57 Now having the master plan on aging.
11:31:00 Thank you.
11:31:01 Others.
11:31:02 Elden.
11:31:03 Yes.
11:31:05 This is Debbie. Tyler was seniors first in.
11:31:07 Aye.
11:31:08 How are we doing today?
11:31:09 Right. So.
11:31:17 We run an information assistance line and we've noticed in the last
11:31:20 year and a half or so, especially during COVID.
11:31:23 There,
11:31:24 we're seeing a little bit of a shift in the types of calls that we're
11:31:27 receiving.
11:31:29 And I think those are things that are,
11:31:30 are the AGRC is starting to help us identify as well.
11:31:33 In our meetings.
11:31:55 One of those shifts that's occurring is that we're seeing more and
11:31:57 more individuals who have no one in their lives to help them.
11:32:00 They don't have a bed, they don't have a circle of support.
11:32:03 That's very strong.
11:32:04 So we're really looking at talking to people more often about building
11:32:07 that circle of support and helping them identify people that are
11:32:10 available to them.
11:32:11 But we are finding there's a larger portion of people out there that
11:32:13 really don't.
11:32:14 As they age don't have that anymore. They're the last,
11:32:16 the last man standing.
11:32:17 So to speak.
11:32:21 So that's a piece and then encouraging people.
11:32:23 And Maggie's already mentioned a home share program,
11:32:25 encouraging people to think in those terms,
11:32:27 that living alone in your own home does not have to be the only answer
11:32:31 that sharing a home with someone else.
11:32:32 Like we probably mostly did when we got out of high school and went on
11:32:35 to college or went on to work.
11:32:37 When we were much younger, we were sharing homes with other people.
11:32:39 So having, helping people think in that term,
11:32:41 In the terms of being able to share with someone else and also.
11:32:44 Being willing to share.
11:32:51 Someone else, but we are identifying people.
11:32:54 And that fits again into that gap that we have where people just have
11:32:56 no one available to them because of their age,
11:32:58 because of the family dynamics, whatever.
11:33:00 So I think the DRC is going to be able to help us identify that too,
11:33:03 as we move forward a little bit.
11:33:04 Thank you.
11:33:05 Thank you.
11:33:06 Thank you for the work you do.
11:33:07 I'm glad you brought up our.
11:33:09 Our home share program. Again, we.
11:33:10 We struggle with housing in this county.
11:33:12 I mean.
11:33:13 Lasher county.
11:33:15 And we've just recently implemented that home share program we've been
11:33:18 trying for, it was almost happening. And then the pandemic came.
11:33:21 But we got those.
11:33:23 Those that did it got on it right away.
11:33:24 So we have it. So thank you.
11:33:26 If I get asked the check on this.
11:33:28 If you'll just give me a five minute warning on time.
11:33:32 Somebody could, I don't remember who the check is,
11:33:34 but any other more comments?
11:33:36 Oh, then I'm sorry to be read this home sharing.
11:33:38 Not be rated, but to really continue.
11:34:01 I would like to see more education about home sharing. Like I said,
11:34:04 I am experiencing it myself.
11:34:05 I think when people think about that and I certainly did for a minute
11:34:08 because I'm exhausted. I am absolutely.
11:34:10 I cannot tell you how exhausted I am from taking care of my brother.
11:34:14 And I know a lot of you are taking care of older adults in your life
11:34:17 and it is, and trying to hold down a job.
11:34:19 When I think about home sharing with somebody,
11:34:22 especially an older adult, it scares the GBS out of me,
11:34:24 or it did because it was like, oh my gosh,
11:34:25 I'm going to be the caregiver again. And that's just not true.
11:34:28 That's not true.
11:34:29 But that is in talking to other people.
11:34:31 The first thing that goes through our minds. So I think education.
11:34:34 Maybe creating some community outreach, maybe some Facebook groups.
11:34:37 I don't know, you know,
11:34:38 some way to change to shift that because people.
11:34:41 I think are afraid of indigo.
11:34:42 You know, living with somebody and being there.
11:34:44 Emotional sky captain too.
11:34:45 Where it's it's it's gotta be the most enriching prep.
11:34:48 You know,
11:34:49 experience that I've had not living with my sisters and brothers.
11:34:51 Thank God.
11:34:52 Cause there's eight of us.
11:34:53 You know, living with another adult, it's been fantastic.
11:34:57 I'm still learning and I'm so excited about it.
11:34:59 The child.
11:35:00 This is Yana.
11:35:03 Hi, Ellen.
11:35:10 I'm a person centered counselor at the agency on aging.
11:35:13 And what I've noticed in all about counties.
11:35:15 Is the lack of day programs that are local.
11:35:18 You know, that are in, within a reasonable area.
11:35:21 Proximity for where people live, where they can.
11:35:23 Bring their loved ones who need.
11:35:26 The day program or if they need respite.
11:35:34 And so I noticed a plastic county has the dedication,
11:35:36 which is that privately owned one. And then seniors first.
11:35:38 Runs a couple of day programs.
11:35:42 But having affordable day programs,
11:35:44 I think is also important because many of them are up to a hundred
11:35:47 dollars a day or, you know,
11:35:48 Up towards a hundred dollars a day.
11:35:54 So if there can be more government subsidies for,
11:35:57 or government support for day programs,
11:35:59 I think that would be really helpful for caregivers and for people who
11:36:01 have.
11:36:02 Disabilities, especially.
11:36:04 Since the dementias are showing up a lot more.
11:36:06 For people.
11:36:07 And then just echoing what Kara said about affordable housing.
11:36:16 You know,
11:36:17 we get calls a lot from people who aren't a fixed income and their
11:36:20 rent just keeps getting increased. And they're just, just, you know,
11:36:23 you just do the math, you just cannot afford your rent.
11:36:26 So you have to find other alternatives, but there are alternatives.
11:36:28 Sometimes just aren't there. Or, you know,
11:36:29 if you have few years to wait on a wait list,
11:36:31 Then you're not maybe in a better position, but.
11:36:33 And then the last thing I would say is that.
11:36:37 Affordability of boarding care or even booming boards.
11:36:39 I'm not sure how many there are in Pasa county.
11:36:42 I think that's one of those. I think they.
11:36:44 You know, in Sacramento county is there's more of a more,
11:36:47 more and more coming all the time.
11:36:48 But.
11:36:49 It's still the affordability part of it. And.
11:36:53 You know, since I think most of them are privately owned.
11:36:55 Those people can.
11:37:00 Decide how much to charge people.
11:37:02 And oftentimes they charge as much as they possibly can.
11:37:04 Which it makes it difficult for people.
11:37:06 To make that decision.
11:37:07 Yeah. Thanks. Thank.
11:37:08 Thank you, John. Very much.
11:37:10 We're bringing up the issue.
11:37:15 Services for older adults.
11:37:19 And we did have some data on the number of facilities.
11:37:21 In each of our counties.
11:37:23 The data workshop.
11:37:25 And it's a lot. There's a lot of facilities.
11:37:29 Another thing. I think many people aren't aware of.
11:37:34 Program.
11:37:41 Just the best they can. I think another thing that came to mind is.
11:37:44 You've been talking and I think we all see this need.
11:37:47 Is helping people plan ahead.
11:37:49 You know,
11:37:54 People just don't plan well about where they're going to live,
11:37:57 how they're going to live.
11:37:58 What services they may or may not need. So.
11:38:01 Prior of any part of plan probably.
11:38:02 Probably should be.
11:38:03 Educational process or something.
11:38:05 Encourage people to plan ahead.
11:38:07 Others.
11:38:11 I just wanted to add one.
11:38:15 Comment in regards to the day programs.
11:38:18 And I'm, I'm speaking specifically for people with.
11:38:24 Disabilities,
11:38:25 but I don't know if people are aware of how hard it is to find
11:38:29 placement.
11:38:43 In a day program for somebody who's in a wheelchair,
11:38:46 those positions,
11:38:47 those availability they're exceptionally limited.
11:38:50 They tend to only accept a certain number of people who are in
11:38:53 wheelchairs.
11:38:54 And so this means there are individuals that we are working on
11:38:58 supporting who.
11:38:59 Simply because of the fact that they are in a wheelchair.
11:39:02 Don't have access to a day program.
11:39:03 So accessibility.
11:39:04 Yeah.
11:39:06 Others.
11:39:07 I'm elder. And I think bill has a question.
11:39:08 Thank you. And thank you, elder.
11:39:11 For calling me, I do want a purpose that I don't live in.
11:39:17 Buzzer county,
11:39:18 but many of the issues that are being talked about are mirrored in the
11:39:21 two counties that I'm volunteering in.
11:39:23 Alameda and Contra Costa.
11:39:26 And what, what I think is becoming clear in our discussion,
11:39:28 not only here, but at the other meetings.
11:39:31 One of the struggles are.
11:39:32 Is we're dealing with a system.
11:39:35 That is not fully built out.
11:39:38 Today.
11:39:41 To meet the changing demographics of today.
11:39:45 So there, yes, there are limits on housing. Yes. There is limits.
11:39:49 In adult.
11:39:50 Day programs and so on.
11:40:02 Because either they haven't been fully funded prior to this watershed
11:40:06 budget that we have this year,
11:40:07 or they haven't been fully built out to meet the needs of the
11:40:11 population. So.
11:40:12 It seems to me that.
11:40:13 To some degree, we have one.
11:40:15 What.
11:40:18 On the shore and one in the boat,
11:40:19 as we're making the transition from what was to what we
11:40:23 need to be. And, you know, I would say.
11:40:25 As a quick aside, I was on in a zoom meeting, much like this.
11:40:36 Actually almost a year ago when somebody basically said,
11:40:40 geez, I can't wait till we get back to normal.
11:40:42 And one of the parents who is taking care of a child with
11:40:45 disabilities,
11:40:47 Just really set her off.
11:40:48 And she says back to normal. We don't want to get back to normal.
11:40:52 We want to get back to better.
11:41:04 And I, I think that that really,
11:41:06 I think gives us a set of marching orders. If you will,
11:41:09 we have this great master plan for aging.
11:41:11 We have the local playbook and all the things that we need to do.
11:41:14 And I was, if somebody was to ask me, well, bill, what are you saying?
11:41:17 What, what is it going to take? My answer is all of us.
11:41:20 That is the formal system, the informal system, that community,
11:41:23 the faith community, everybody.
11:41:24 To get this going because of the deficits that we're dealing
11:41:28 with from the system.
11:41:29 Prior to the COVID.
11:41:31 And where we need to go to have a system that is.
11:41:33 More accessible and provides equity of access to
11:41:37 everybody in our community. Thank you.
11:41:39 Thank you, bill.
11:41:40 You raised a really good point.
11:41:41 One is dish.
11:41:42 These issues.
11:41:44 Are just our four counties represented here. They're across.
11:41:46 They're everywhere.
11:41:48 And they've been there for a very, very long time.
11:42:03 But they've certainly come to the fore more with COVID and the impact
11:42:06 on these populations,
11:42:07 but also just the demographics are finally pushing the issue
11:42:11 up to a place where now we do have a master plan.
11:42:14 The other thing is that you bring to mind,
11:42:16 bill is a lot of these programs.
11:42:19 Were developed 30 years ago or more.
11:42:21 And the eligibility criteria for them.
11:42:24 The relations that are served, how you get into them and out.
11:42:27 To them and find them,
11:42:28 everything has changed in the last 30 years.
11:42:30 Except.
11:42:31 That.
11:42:35 The other thing that you bring to mind is how fragmented our
11:42:39 systems are sometimes and how.
11:42:41 Difficult. It is for a consumer or.
11:42:43 Somebody in need.
11:42:44 To find their way through those systems.
11:42:46 I think that.
11:42:47 The local level, our ADR C's.
11:42:50 Or are endeavoring to make that process a bit easier.
11:42:54 The administration.
11:42:59 Community living at the federal level is trying to do that is still
11:43:02 hasn't happened yet.
11:43:03 The state level.
11:43:04 And a show.
11:43:05 You're right.
11:43:09 Everybody needs to be at the table and be willing to do the kind of
11:43:12 work.
11:43:13 I just got a warning.
11:43:15 Time's up. I want to say before we go that.
11:43:18 In plaster county and some of you are here.
11:43:20 Are on this committee.
11:43:27 Forms or committee of members of our commission on aging or older
11:43:31 adult advisory commission and R a D.
11:43:34 To formed a work group to begin to work together and look at
11:43:38 this.
11:43:39 It just seems at times, even though like Colby.
11:43:42 He says our house.
11:43:43 Said to me.
11:43:44 We've done a lot.
11:43:45 You know,
11:43:46 We'd walked away.
11:43:47 On the path.
11:43:48 But some plan just is so big.
11:43:50 And it involves so much.
11:43:52 That were.
11:43:53 We are lucky.
11:43:55 Hiring a consultant with all of us.
11:44:01 Those directors and all of us that are, are working.
11:44:04 We don't have time to really review the whole county.
11:44:07 What have we done? Whatever you haven't done.
11:44:09 Who's been included who hasn't been included. What do we need to do?
11:44:12 What are our objectives going forward?
11:44:14 So we're fortunate.
11:44:15 This point to have some.
11:44:18 Financial contributors are willing to support the hiring of a
11:44:21 consultant.
11:44:22 That work group.
11:44:23 Made up of our commission on AIG.
11:44:27 RC will guide that process if we do it. And I think we will.
11:44:31 You remember Jim Holmes?
11:44:32 Is an advocate.
11:44:33 He's now aware of that.
11:44:35 So.
11:44:39 I want our notes to the full group to mention that because.
11:44:42 I think.
11:44:44 You know, I'm not in any of your other communities.
11:44:48 But the task too.
11:44:50 Decide where to go.
11:44:51 From here.
11:44:52 Is.
11:44:55 It's not a small task and I don't know.
11:45:04 What other folks are like elsewhere,
11:45:06 but I think we're all pretty stretched.
11:45:08 So that's kind of where we're headed in this county.
11:45:11 Any, any closing comments?
11:45:16 Okay. And then she, oh, you put it in. Okay.
11:45:19 In the chat.
11:45:23 You can find the link.
11:45:26 To go back.
11:45:27 Any room for our wrap up.
11:45:35 I really appreciate all of you and your
11:45:38 participation on this and everything else you're doing. So.
11:45:42 I'll see you back in the main room.
11:45:43 Thank you.